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Barack Obama – August 4

That pic is to fucking awesome to not share again.

Really.

I want to know.

Who was born on the same day as you?

http://www.famousbirthdays.net…

(yes, I went THERE with the url)

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Spiff – March 13

1964 Will Clark (baseman)

1960 Adam Clayton (musician)

1956 Dana Delaney (actress)

1953 Deborah Raffin (actress)

1950 Williams H. Macy (actor)

1949 Donald York (singer)

1939 Neil Sedaka (songwriter, singer)

1934 Dick Katz (pianist, composer)

1933 Mike Stoller (record producer, songwriter)

1930 Peter Breck (actor)

Meh.

Not bad.

(wish it was better)

Come out of lurk mode and share peeps.

I expect more from Barack

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I am dissapointed in Barack Obama.

Very dissapointed.

I never thought that the P-elect could puke rainbows, shit unicorns and piss peace.

Never.

I always knew he was just another pol. A great one. But still a politician.

I’ve seen him make bullshit moves to advance his political goals and I’ve stuck by him because this is how the game works. .

His economic policy apparently was not  written up in crayon by a bunch of fourth graders.

It doesn’t look like he’s going to try to grope the economy while driving her home after a bad date either.

No rufie colada for the Economy thank you very much.

He wants us out of Iraq and is actually interested in getting Bin Laden.

But …

HE FUCKED UP this time.

Aretha Franklin and Dr. Rick Warren, an evangelical minister of the Saddleback Church, are among the select group of people who will participate in Barack Obama’s inaugural swearing-in ceremony on Jan. 20.

Rick Warren?

Really?

Really…

Really fucked up.

Dr. Warren, author of “The Purpose Driven Life,” will deliver the invocation.

Why the hell do we even have church mixed up with state in the first place? This coming from a christian (me).

Warren might not be so blatant about his homophobia (he has gay friends!) but his support of Prop 8 says all you need to know about the man.

Barack Obama has 4 years to prove that he is a progressive when it comes to civil rights. I see nothing that makes me think otherwise as far as mainstream politicians are concerned. But this is a rocky start and I’m pretty pissed off about it (even if I’m not surprised).

We learned from the Bush years that the never ending campaign only leads to trouble.

The elections are over and he should remember who helped get him elected in the first place.

Progressives.

/rant mode off

Natural Born Citizens : The Lunatic Fringe attacks! **UPDATE**

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UPDATE:

Props to Semiq in the comments section.

The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth.

Didn’t see this coming.

At least one other appeal over Obama’s citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and the Hawaii secretary of state has confirmed. Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg’s lawsuit.

These people just won’t stop.

A rec’d diary over at Orange Satan has a great breakdown.

Especially on the douchebag Clarence Thomas.

Crazy.

This wouldn’t have been a blip on the horizon, much less a diary, except that Thomas kept the case alive by agreeing to put it to the Court conference. Thomas’s action is highly unusual, to say the least:

[Trevor] Morrison [a professor of law at Columbia University School of Law] said that Thomas’s actions are once in a decade. “When that does happen, the case has to be of an extraordinary nature and this does not fit that circumstance,” he said. “My guess would be that Thomas accepted the case so it would go before the conference where it will likely be denied. If Thomas denied the petition, then Donofrio would be free to go to the other justices for their consideration. “This way, I would guess, the matter would be done with. Petitions of Donofrio’s types are hardly ever granted.” New America Media 3 Dec

During the primaries, I loved visiting some of the more fringe sites and laughing at the level of crazy. The line between tinfoil and sanity was very blurry. I chalked a lot of it up to emotion and figured the normal haters would calm down after the election.

Most of the country has:

More than three of four Americans, including a majority of Republicans, approve of the job Obama has done so far – broad-based support he’ll need as he faces tough decisions ahead.

By 69%-25%, those surveyed approve of his pick of New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, his former Democratic primary rival, as secretary of State.

By an even wider margin, 80%-14%, they favor his decision to ask President Bush’s Pentagon chief, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, to stay on the job.

I love it when polls refute what tv pundits and blogosphere pundits try to sell.

More of that here.

In the poll, Americans by more than 3-1 say they trust Obama more than Bush to handle the economy. By 58%-33%, they support Obama’s plan for a huge spending package to spur economic growth.

The survey of 1,010 adults, taken Monday by landline and cellphone, has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.

There’s little concern Obama is relying too much on veterans of President Clinton’s administration. By nearly 4-1, those polled predict the officials will make the incoming team more effective, not less so.

Singer:

These numbers are just stunning, and serve as further proof that Barack Obama will enter the White House with a greater mandate than any newly elected President in a very long time. While I certainly do not expect this spread to hold indefinitely, or even necessarily for the duration of Obama’s first 100 days in office, this level of support gives Obama the juice to hit the ground running on January 20.

But I was wrong. I took my afternoon stroll through the Sludge Report to see where the right wings talking points currently are at.

I couldn’t believe what I was reading.

Will Supreme Court take case on Obama’s citizenship?

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama’s election.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes’ suit seeks to halt certification of votes in

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They let this tool run for a Senate seat?

Geez.

Talk about having low standards.

He’s in it for the publicity (I hope) but some of these same bloggers are acting strangely in real life.

Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the “Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt.” The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and “All News Media.”

Which makes if even more surreal when I read this on some of the most fringe sites out there.

(no links, but not hard to guess where to find them)

Queen Kitty speaks.

BHO II is only a symptom, if it wasn’t him it would be Gov. Richardson or somebody else. People in the law and in Congress wanted to see The Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment, otherwise known as The Hatch Amendment of 2003, passed, it reads:

“Section 1. A person who is a citizen of the United States, who has been for 20 years a citizen of the United States, and who is otherwise eligible to the Office of President, is not ineligible to that Office by reason of not being a native born citizen of the United States.

Section 2. This article shall not take effect unless it has been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States not later than 7 years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.”

and would replace Article II’s natural-born citizen clause. Under this Amendment Schwarzenegger, Granholm, Martinez, etc, etc would be Eligible. I’d probably back it, were it to be passed clean and Bill Clinton favors it heavily, but I’d still have doubts about dual citizenship. What I object to is that the Constitution is being perverted and the law defied to produce the same effect.

Whether you use Article II with Jay’s letter, Blackstone, Swayne, etc and the Law of 1790 to show intention, which is what I believe you should do, or add the XIVth Amendment with the Act of 1866 as Madison does, you get the same result, BHO II is not a natural-born citizen. Neither is Governor Richardson, neither was Governor George Romney and it is possible that Senator McCain isn’t either. I suspect that if he were to be found Ineligible Congress would push for, and get, the Hatch Amendment passed and he would stand again in 2012. At that time I strongly suspect he would lose.

This post had 250 comments by the way.

Nuggets like this:

Free America

I understand most of this article from a definition standpoint.

What I don’t understand though is why the SCOTUS would choose not to hear this case. They have to understand the legal implications on the Constitution if they let the usurper take the highest office of the land.

Someone help me out. If we accept that Judah’s facts are correct and that his definition of natural born citizen would prohibit BHO from taking office – then why would the SCOTUS not hear this case? I’m confused.

You’re fucking right you are confused.

Wendy

Brilliantly researched and written. That you know WHAT to research and WHY is as important as the conclusions you draw from it. With your permission, I would like to submit this work along with Parts 1 and 2 of Divided Loyalties to Justice Clarence Thomas. Please let me know if this is okay by email. Thank you for all the time spent on these works….as I said….BRILLIANT.

Heh.

I have nothing more to add.

What a joke.

The New York City of Left Blogistan

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I know a lot of our fellow Moose commenters and Moose lurkers are not the biggest fans of the DailyKos.

I completely understand why you would feel this way if you see it from a primary wars prespective.

It wasn’t pretty much of the time and it was ugly a lot of the time.

But we have to move on. If the rallying cry from many primary Clinton supporters, Obama supporters, ex Obamabots, and ex PUMA’s who are now on board is to … MOVE ON.

I agree.

Let’s ALL move on.

Bill (D)

As I have said numerous times, my autographed Bill Clinton “My Life” original hard cover copy is one of my most prized possesions.

Bill Clinton autograph

No. I’m not some groupie who demands honour for the Clintons (heh).

I’ve just always digged how good he was at what he did.

I was dissapointed in him a few times during the primary even when I knew this was just part of the political game.

That’s all it is. It’s the reason Bush and McCain made peace.

No hard feelings. This is a sport to them (and me).

Politics.

Which is why I’ve always been a HUGE William Jefferson Clinton fan.

His abilities as a politician are remarkable. You can say whatever you want about him.

Dude plays the game hard.

I remember all the pre Convention drama about what he would say.

What did you think he would say?

This is part of what he did say.

(emphasis mine)

Barack Obama is ready to lead America and restore American leadership in the world. Ready to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. Barack Obama is ready to be President of the United States.

He will work for an America with more partners and fewer adversaries. He will rebuild our frayed alliances and revitalize the international institutions which help to share the costs of the world’s problems and to leverage our power and influence. He will put us back in the forefront of the world’s fight to reduce nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and to stop global warming. He will continue and enhance our nation’s global leadership in an area in which I am deeply involved, the fight against AIDS, TB and malaria, including a renewal of the battle against HIV/AIDS here at home. He will choose diplomacy first and military force as a last resort. But in a world troubled by terror; by trafficking in weapons, drugs and people; by human rights abuses; by other threats to our security, our interests, and our values, when he cannot convert adversaries into partners, he will stand up to them.

Barack Obama also will not allow the world’s problems to obscure its opportunities. Everywhere, in rich and poor countries alike, hardworking people need good jobs; secure, affordable healthcare, food, and energy; quality education for their children; and economically beneficial ways to fight global warming. These challenges cry out for American ideas and American innovation. When Barack Obama unleashes them, America will save lives, win new allies, open new markets, and create new jobs for our people.

Most important, Barack Obama knows that America cannot be strong abroad unless we are strong at home.

People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power.

Kind of says it all …. huh?

He knows what is needed and he understands how important it is to have the big guns out there.

Hillary will  be our top diplomat abroad.

The country and the world needs this.

Bill Clinton understands what is at stake.

That’s the most important trait for me ….

Bill Clinton is a team player.

Always has been.

Minor proof?

Bill Clinton robocalling in Georgia.

Major proof?

Bill Clinton giving up A LOT to do whatever it takes to have Hillary rep the USA as SoS.

Concessions by former President Clinton

To make it possible for his wife to become the top U.S. diplomat, the officials said, former President Clinton agreed:

-to disclose the names of every contributor to his foundation since its inception in 1997 and all contributors going forward.

-to refuse donations from foreign governments to the Clinton Global Initiative, his annual charitable conference.

-to cease holding CGI meetings overseas.

-to volunteer to step away from day to day management of the foundation while his wife is secretary of state.

-to submit his speaking schedule to review by the State Department and White House counsel.

-to submit any new sources of income to a similar ethical review.

Bill Clinton’s business deals and global charitable endeavors had been expected to create problems for the former first lady’s nomination. But in negotiations with the Obama transition team, the former president agreed to several measures designed to bring transparency to those activities.

“It’s a big step,” said Sen. Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who said he plans to vote to confirm Clinton.

Taking one for the team ….

…and the wallet.

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Bill is the shizznet.

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William Jefferson Clinton = Drama

But that’s what I love about him!

I knew the title would get your attention.

Just playing of this :

“The sense among the no-drama Obama world is: This is well on its way to winning best Oscar for drama,” said one well-connected Democratic official.

No, I’m not agreeing with the quote, I’m just giving you a feel of what’s out there.

Ok. Seriously now.

The vetting process has begun!

I’m sure you all have read the latest “reasons” being given by “anonymous” leaks about why Hillary might not get the SoS nod.

The main sticking point is Bill. I love Bill. I’m pretty sure I’ve been clear about that all year.

Although I wouldn’t go as far as this “well connected D official”–

it’s not Clinton hate(or CDS or whatever) to say that the Obama team has a point here.

The potential for conflicts of interest are huge.

HUGE!

Politico has a good wrap up.

(emphasis mine)

But it could prove problematic for Obama if the former president continues to seek donations from foreign countries at the same time that his wife, as secretary of state, is asking them for diplomatic concessions. The Clinton Global initiative, which has raised more than $30 billion since 2005, has solicited major donations from a handful of foreign governments, including a $1 billion pledge from Norway in 2007.

snip

The former president was in was in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, and Kuwait City over the past four days and returned to the United States on Monday morning.

Heh.

He’s in Kuwait City.

Kind of ironic.

But the fact that Hillary is being seriously considered and looks like a frontrunner proves how serious Barack is about having her in his cabinet.

It means the Obama team is willing to give Hillary the spot if they recieve reassurance from the Clintons that his philantropic work will not pose a conflict of interest.

I believe this to be a very reasonable request.

“I doubt that they are looking for an excuse to pick someone else,” a neutral Democratic official said, “but rather are genuinely concerned that Bill Clinton’s work, while worthy, would be greatly complicating if she were SecState.”

Acting like the Clintons should not be vetted, when the Clinton themselves are actively cooperating with the vetting process is kind of missing the point here. As experienced politicians they know what’s at stake here and the importance of the procedure for such a high profile job.

I’m hopeful they will all come to a mutual understanding

Isn’t that what people with the same common goal want?

The ball is very much in her court, but the president’s finances have been a major point of sensitivity from Day One,” the well-connected Democratic official explained.

What really make me think this will be a done deal is these words by William Jefferson Clinton himself.

“If he decided to ask her and they did it together, I think she’ll be really great as a secretary of state. … She worked very hard for his election after the primary fight with him, and so did I, and we were very glad that he won and we have a lot of confidence that he can do a good job. But she didn’t do what she did with the hope or expectation of getting any kind of job offer, much less having this discussed.”

He obviously wants her to take the job and I’m pretty sure he’ll sacrifice any reasonable requests to help her achieve that goal.

Don’t think I need to put a disclaimer on the Moose, but just in case.

I’m being respectful of the Clintons so I respect people to be respectful of my opinion on this.

What’s your take on it?

Hillary Clinton “offered” SoS – Will she take it? **UPDATE X 3 **

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This rumor has been out there for a couple of days …

….and it seems to be gaining some traction.

Update X 3 (props to trustno1): Obama “officialy” offers position to Hillary?

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President-elect Barack Obama offered Sen. Hillary Clinton the position of Secretary of State during their meeting Thursday in Chicago, according to two senior Democratic officials. She requested time to consider the offer, the officials said.

Spiff says (if the rumors are true) :

These are serious and difficult times–the usual rules may not apply.

There is a window of opportunity here where the world is unsettled.

The USA can play a huge role in reshaping things at a global level.

Shaping them in a way advantageous to the US and positive for the world.

This IS a defining moment in history.

This is NOT the time for payback and political posturing.

We need to bring all the heavy hitters into the game now and put them into play.

Love or hate her–Hillary is a player.

I say bring her on .