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Des Moines Register Poll: Mittens and MadEyes Lead the GOP Pack: An Oddly Open Thread

According to Politico:

Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann are leading a crowded field in the heavily-watched Des Moines Register poll out tonight, the first of the cycle and the one that is the starting gun for the race to the Ames Straw Poll.

According to the Associated Press, the Register poll shows Romney receiving 23 percent of support from likely GOP caucus-goers, while Bachmann gets 22 percent.

Herman Cain, the former pizza chain CEO, took third place, with 10 percent, while no one else broke double digits. Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul tied at 7 percent, while Tim Pawlenty got 6 percent, just ahead of Rick Santorum, with 4 percent.

If a tree falls in the forest and only crazy people hear it, did it really make a noise?

Consider this an oddly Open Thread.

Any Fukushima news, Shaun?


  1. but Mittens wouldn’t be all bad. Decent person in general terms, and even though it is only a slight shift it would be the first time a non-mainstream Christian got in office.

    You know Mormons drive Evangelicals crazy in ways even atheists can’t manage… :~)

  2. The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout.

    There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices. To be found only in the minds of men.

    For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy. And a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own. For the children, and the children yet unborn.

    And the pity of it is, that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.

    “Maple Street” – 1957

    Staying relevant much, Rod?

  3. spacemanspiff

    Why Obama? The right to choose.

    That brings us to Justice Ginsberg, who is a sure vote to uphold the right to choose, but who is also a likely candidate for retirement. Her replacement will be the 5th vote. Her replacement must be chosen by a Democratic President, in this case, President Obama.

    In order to name Justice Ginsburg’s replacement, President Obama must win reelection. She is unlikely to retire before the 2012 election and if she did, the President may be constrained in choosing a replacement (yes, I believe the Republicans would filibuster a Supreme Court nominee.)

    Things have been crazier than ever at Daily Kos. Yesterday’s frontpage posts were especially “vomit in my mouth  little” types. I wondered if I was reading Red State or a lefty blog. Seriously. First time that has ever happened to me there. It was wayyy over the top.  

  4. Shaun Appleby

    About the mad elephant in the room from that poll; Michele Bachmann.  Hate to say it guys but I’m convinced the Republicans are going to back an insurgent candidacy this time around and it is looking like she is it.

    Have a look at Matt Taibbi’s recent piece in the Rolling Stone and despair:

    But don’t laugh. Don’t do it. And don’t look her in the eyes; don’t let her smile at you. Michele Bachmann, when she turns her head toward the cameras and brandishes her pearls and her ageless, unblemished neckline and her perfect suburban orthodontics in an attempt to reassure the unbeliever of her non-threateningness, is one of the scariest sights in the entire American cultural tableau. She’s trying to look like June Cleaver, but she actually looks like the T2 skeleton posing for a passport photo.

    Matt Taibbi – Michele Bachmann’s Holy War Rolling Stone 22 Jun 11

    With a perfect storm of institutional support as a Palin-blocker, evangelical enthusiasm in the absence of Huckabee and Tea Party grass-roots zeal this woman could walk away with an Iowa caucus victory.  The thought of sober pundits pretending to take this candidate, and her nutty policies, seriously for an entire year triggers my gag reflex.  We are not getting any smarter any time soon, apparently.

  5. HappyinVT

    from Netflix is Fall from Grace about the Westboro group.

    Likely I’ll be rightly pissed off before going to bed.

    (The King’s Speech is back on my list ’cause I loooove it.)

  6. spacemanspiff

    Check it out.

    Reading here reminds me so much of what was going on during the primaries and the general in the olden days – brilliant advice that would have, if followed, left us with John McCain dropping H-bombs on Iran and Sarah Palin leading Christ’s Army against Godless Infidels.  When she wasn’t having botox injections and sculpting her ass and tits for next week’s appearances.  

    We have the most progressive president of my lifetime (and I date back to Eisenhower) in the White House, and the best we can come up with is tolerance for or even slavish adoration for the “Primary Him” contingent?  

    I’d like to take a moment to reach back into history.  FDR is a hero to today’s progressives, a man of strength, a man who wasn’t afraid to use the bully pulpit to save America from ruin.  To the progressives of his time he was weak, ineffectual and a sellout.  FDR was not so popular as you think!

  7. virginislandsguy

    and they were oddly connected.

    Bank of America to Set Aside $14 Billion in Mortgage Deal from the NYT and

    Greek government wins austerity vote from the Financial Times.

    What they have in common is determining who will be the ultimate bag-holders of losses stemming from the collapse of the worldwide Credit Bubble.

    Greece did the right thing in the short-term, but Germany in particular will have to enforce haircuts on bondholders and banks for a long-term solution.

    No surprise that BofA took this loss, it was just a question when they had the balance sheet flexibility to do so. At GOS, the first diary about this has the following:

    Take a look at these investors. They are the very ones who should be indicted for their own fraudulent behavior and yet they are going to receive a settlement? And where is that money coming from? Are the BOA depositors going to wind up with some of this debt? Not to mention Goldman Sacs is getting away with only paying millions of dollars to settle not long ago.

    I’m only seeing a transfer of money from one wealthy corporation to another. How about the real victims, you know the home owners, the unemployed, etc….

    The financial commentary at DK is both predictable and appalling. Ms. B and bobswern must be linking and typing furiously.

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