Love him or hate him….he was a masterful musician and phenomenal entertainer.
Michael Jackson (August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009)
Consider this an Open Thread.
Love him or hate him….he was a masterful musician and phenomenal entertainer.
Michael Jackson (August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009)
Consider this an Open Thread.
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But the next few days will be a challenge to us. There are so many things to do…
Quite simple.
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