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MOTLEY MOOSE POSTING GUIDELINES

1.  Personal attacks will not be tolerated. If someone says something with which you disagree you should attack the argument, not the person who made it. Persistent harassment of another user will also be judged as a personal attack.

2.  There is no litmus test on the issues. Attack the argument, not the person who made it.  There are Democrats who, while generally agreeing with most of our platform, hold some views the rest of us don’t: they are allowed to make their case should they choose to do so respectfully.

3.  It is acceptable to say something nice about a Republican, or something negative about a Democrat, without being labeled a troll.  Not every Republican is evil, nor is every Democrat a paragon of virtue.  We won’t delete a comment to the effect of “John McCain adopted a southeast Asian child, and I respect him for doing that.”  That’s fine.  It’s also fine to say something like “Congressman Jefferson looks guilty as hell, I mean, they found a ton of cash in his freezer!”  They are both reasonable observations. Constructive criticism is not only acceptable, it is welcomed. Context is key.

4.  It is emphatically not acceptable to try to dissuade other members from voting for Democratic candidates.  We know that this is subjective and it is possible that someone could honestly believe that what they are promoting is best for the Democratic party, but there is a point past which this turns into trolling and it will be dealt with accordingly. If we see that a member’s only contributions are lamentations as to the general evil of the party, it’s nominees, or their supporters we will likely consider that person to be a troll.

5. It is unacceptable to campaign for or promote Republican candidates.  The fact that we accept contrarian issue diaries and comments does not mean that a member can include something to the effect of “And that’s why I’m voting for John McCain, and that’s why you should, too.”

6. Profanity is not allowed in Diary titles. Profanity is permitted in diary content and comments except where it runs afoul of rule number one.  We expect you to behave like an adult, of course, but you are free to use salty language.  Don’t abuse that privilege.

7.  Derogatory language against arbitrary groups is not acceptable. We strongly discourage labeling any group in a negative way. Derogatory terms used against fellow Democrats or Progressives are absolutely verboten and will be dealt with accordingly.  A person is not evil because they belong to an organization you do not, or believe something you don’t, and casting wide nets of derision over them is against the fundamentals of Democratic beliefs.

8.  No commercial interests are permitted in comments or diaries without explicit prior permission on our part. Explain to us why it makes sense to allow you to promote a commercial interest and we’ll think about it. It is incredibly unlikely that we will approve any such requests.

9.  One person is not permitted to have multiple accounts (so-called “sockpuppets”).  If a member is banned, they are not permitted to register a new account without prior approval from the moderation team. Accusations of sock-puppetry should only be made if absolute proof is known. If you have proof, provide it to the Moderators. Without solid proof, continued accusations will be seen as trolling.

10. The First Amendment does not apply here.  We are not an arm of the government and we are not a state-actor.  As such we are free to regulate your diaries and comments as we see fit.  We are disinclined to touch anything you write, respecting the fact that the free flow of information and ideas is essential to our society.  However, we have created this forum in large measure because we want a place wherein we can organize for our issues and our Party.  If you’re here to harm that effort we have no use for you and you are not welcome.  If you are here to take part honestly but disagree with the majority of us on some issues that is fine.  Again, there’s a line and it isn’t easy to define.  If we see that a poster is getting hide-rated into oblivion, for example, that would be a good indication of trolling.


The following may result in immediate banning.

1. ‘Outing’ another member’s private info (be it their name, likeness, address, phone number, email, place of work, etc).

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Promoting Conspiracy Theories and/or repeatedly linking to sites that embrace and promote them.

3. Blatant trolling, spamming or any other flagrant abuse of our hospitality.

CONSEQUENCES:

Getting a warning every few months is no big deal, good people can make mistakes, but if a member cannot operate within our rules we will act to maintain the purpose of the site. We have no willingness to allow open Republican trolls or other obvious agitators to derail useful conversations and Moderators will act accordingly to stop the bleeding.

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* If a Comment or Diary is deleted by Moderators, an explanation as to the deletion will be left in their place.

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Deleted content, however, is deleted forever. (be it a comment or a diary)

* Though the community will always be informed of the reasons for a member having been banned, we have the right to ban anyone at anytime for any reason.

Annoucement: Friday Night “Open Moose!”

Howdy Folks, and Welcome to the Motley Moose Lounge!

Wanna blow off some steam?  

Crack a few one liners?  

Cuss up a storm?

You’ve found the right place.  Don’t miss the inaugural Friday night “Open Moose,” starting at 7pm EDT tonight.

Just remember…we don’t do straight politics here.  

Bring your chops, your jokes, and your sense of humor…clothing is optional, as always.

Cheers, and see you tonight!

-Stipes!

Reform ISN’T the Same Thing as “Change”

Senator McCain and Governor Palin do have some record of reform.  That record is obviously mixed, but yes, they have accomplished some feats of reform in their careers.  That is to their credit and I’m not trying to diminish that.  You guys know me.  I like to give credit where it’s due.

That said, Senator McCain and Governor Palin are trying to conflate “reform” with “change.”  Yes, a facile understanding of these words would make that a passable construction, but in so doing one misses the whole theme of the Obama campaign.

Friday Morning Open Thread

Gov. Palin did an interview yesterday.  She can see Russia from an island in Alaska and had to have George Bush’s policy of preemptive war described to her.

Are you impressed?

Remembering September 11, 2001

Began as a response to Linfars excellent diary and crossposted at mydd

Lin, thank you for bringing us to the real. I cannot watch the news on this day, and have not been able since 2001. Anything they do seems to cheapen the memory.

I was at a training in Duluth that day (four days actually), learning how to conduct forensic interviews with children who may have been sexually molested. This was very early in my career as a CP investigator.

During our midmorning break, many of us started getting phone calls. None of us knew what was going on, and as we wondered if we were at war, our trainers finally called us back in to continue. We got bits and pieces throughout the day, and we all  tried to call family and friends when able. We finished early that day, and I rushed back to my hotel to watch the news for the rest of the evening. I remember thinking how the inconceivable had been happening with greater frequency, as of late.

A Collection of Greatest Videos

Hi folks!

There are so many good video clips out there, I’ve been wanting to make a place to keep the best of them.

Angry Mouse wrote another great diary with this will.i.am clip from the DNC, so I figured it’s as a good a reason to start a collection as any.

Please add your own favorites here and we can all dive into this cache.

John McCain – biggest flip-flopper ever?

Back in 2000, I actually thought John McCain might make a good president, not that I would have voted for him. However, I did think he would surely be better than George W. Bush.

When the Rove attack machine turned on McCain in South Carolina, I was outraged and expected McCain to turn against Bush even more. It wasn’t long before I discovered just how wrong I was about McCain. He not only forgave Bush for the smears about his adopted daughter, he actually embraced Bush. If it had been me, I would have punched him.

Over the last eight years, McCain has shown that he will do and say anything to have the title of President of the United States of America. He has flip-flopped on nearly every important issue. He has embraced people he would have once shunned and reached out for support from people he has condemned. Does this man have any principles left?

He said the war would be quick and easy and then flipped and said that he had always claimed it would be a long hard war.

more after the break, plus videos

The Washington Post asks, “What’s the Pig Deal?”

An editorial in today’s Washington Post takes to task John McCain’s campaign for it “cynical use of the gender card” and calls the lipstick on a pig controvery, “unusually silly.”

(Cross-posted at Clintonistas for Obama)

It points out the many grave crises that face the nation:

1.  “looming deficits and a grim economic outlook”;

2.  a faltering stock market after the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; and

3.  Bush’s refusal to budge on our future in Afghanistan and Iraq.