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War Crimes….Not that anyone cares anymore

Crossposted at mydd

so now that we have the election season in full swing and political stunts by the “Grand Ol’ Party” with McCain trying to hit the “reset” button every 2 days, I know this will get buried.

But it shouldn’t.  Because the GWB administration will be continued with a McCain administration, if the republicans win.  Because McCain USED to be honorable and was against torture, but now he is for it.

War Crimes.  The LA Times reports:

Her written statement to Senate investigators is the first official high-level acknowledgment of meetings that led to harsh methods such as waterboarding.

By Greg Miller, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 25, 2008

WASHINGTON — Senior Bush administration officials held a series of meetings in the White House in 2002 and 2003 to discuss allowing the CIA to use harsh interrogation methods on Al Qaeda detainees, according to a written statement Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice recently provided to Senate investigators.

Rice’s written response to investigators on the Senate Armed Services Committee marks the first time a high-ranking White House official has formally acknowledged the White House discussions, which led to the CIA’s use of waterboarding and other coercive methods.

Did Bush and Cheney know?  Well, the buck has to stop somewhere, but Rice refuses to disclose who attended those meetings.

Rice did not disclose who at the meetings, but said that she had “asked Atty. Gen. [John] Ashcroft personally to review and confirm the legal advice” being prepared by the Department of Justice on the CIA’s interrogation plans.

Other senior officials who routinely attended so-called principals meetings included then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld; Alberto R. Gonzales, then the presidential counsel; and David S. Addington, the vice president’s counsel.

What a sad day in America.  Where was this story in any lead-off in the news cycle today?  Will it be tomorrow?  I guess I can’t fault McCain for not being able to multi-task when our own MSM cannot seem to do the same thing.  Rachel Maddow, as far as I know, was the only one to mention this tonight – but it was buried near the end of her show and only for 5 minutes.

War Crimes.  And we won’t do a damn thing about it.  This administration is getting away with it all and because these types of stories are buried, we might (although I think not and hope not, as I believe Obama/Biden will win) have another 4 years of this type of behavior under McCain/Palin.




McCain will be at the debate tonight.  And I hope the moderator asks him about this – because Rice admitted to it, in a written statement.

Senator McCain, will you form legal actions according to the Geneva Convention, to hold the GWB administration accountable for War Crimes?

now that is a question I want to hear.  And that is what the MSM should be asking.


  1. colebiancardi

    as there was some confusion about my original one on mydd

    tips, flames?

    thanks to chrisblask who gave me the heads up on this site!

  2. anything about interrogation knows that information gotten under duress is notoriously unreliable.  In other words, we contravene our own principles, we undermine our international leadership, we add fuel to the forces who really are out to get us – for no reason.  Add it to the litany of things the current administration that are counter productive to the aims they claim.

    Thanks for coming over, colebiancardi!

  3. spacemanspiff

    I’ve always enjoyed reading your comments and diaries over at MyDD.

    Rachel Maddow, as far as I know, was the only one to mention this tonight – but it was buried near the end of her show and only for 5 minutes.

    This seems like news dump of epic proportions.

    I have great hope that things will change once Barack Obama is our next POTUS.

    I KNOW things will change when he is in office.

    Bush and Co. are shameless and I’m beginning to think that McCain and Quaylin would be worse ( never though I’d say that!).

  4. Loved your stuff at MyDD.  

    The MSM “anyone” may not care, but it’s becoming increasingly evident that they have someone mining the blogs for stories.  Keeping this stuff alive is important.

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