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Well, one at least. Here’s some of what the whackadoodle had to say yesterday:

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, whose authority is teetering amid a popular uprising, said in an interview with a French newspaper on Sunday that an Islamic holy war would engulf the Mediterranean if the insurrection in Libya succeeded and that “we will go back to the time of Red Beard, of pirates, of Ottomans imposing ransoms on boats.”

Of course, this isn’t particularly surprising from an omnicidal dictator who fancies himself a Flemingesque mastermind. Red Beard? This from an asshat who takes fashion advice from Capt. Crunch.

Given the lack of credible coverage for the ongoing situation in Libya, it’s hard to know what’s happening with any degree of certainty. The best we can do is listen to voices like these:

Mohamed Revolutionary, Misrata:

Misrata is very tense. We buried 21 young men today – the casualties of yesterday’s battle.

We hear that Gaddafi’s forces are gathering to the west of the city so it’s quiet here but tense. Very tense.

Misrata is free of Gaddafi’s forces – totally free. I’m confident that we’ll do all we can to drive off and to fight the dictator’s forces.

[snip]

There is new territory gained – little villages and little towns having uprisings and shaking off the control of the dictator. We hear good news every day.

Now we hold an absolute territorial advantage and an absolute population advantage to the dictator. I would now say that 65-70% of Libya is out of control of the dictator. He’s only got Tripoli, Sirte and Sabha and he’s ruling from fear there.

Tripoli is being suffocated by the dictator. It is simmering underneath and hopefully it will blow up soon. We are gaining ground in all directions.

Salah Loyalist, Tripoli:

So far so good in Tripoli. People are starting to get the feeling of security back after the army and police were distributed all over the streets.

[snip]

It’s hard to know which cities are under the control of the regime or the opposition. News agencies on the ground are the ones who know what is happening, but it is very confusing, some say the supporters of Gaddafi are in control of cities outside the capital while other reporters suggest the opposition are.

What are you hearing? This is an open thread / news dump, so have at it.


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  1. Shaun Appleby

    Is turning into the Guernica of this conflict as we speak:


    @LibyaInMe: Uncle’s friend in Zawiya: They are attacking everyone and everything…It’s a massacre unlike others 🙁 #libya #feb17

    It is hard to credit the descriptions being relayed by those outside the city.

  2. Shaun Appleby

    To aggregate information at the moment but it seems:

    Az Zintan in South-western Libya has broken the siege on their city of ten days and forced loyalist forces to withdraw.  This may be significant as it would open up a new front which loyalists forces must deal with.

    Az Zawiyah has been under attack from shelling and apparently ground attack aircraft.  Impossible to get information from within the city but those outside claim it has been extremely heavy:


    @libyanexpat: Getting distress calls from people just outside zawiya saying the whole city has been destroyed. Ya Allah please protect our families #Libya

    In Ras Lanuf it is still unclear where the front line is at the moment.  There have been numerous air strikes on Ras Lanuf including a car destroyed with three fatalities.  Situation fluid and little reporting at the moment:


    There’s a lot of planning going on for the Ras Lanuf-to-Sirt front by revolutionaries, I can confirm that. Of course no details. #Libya

    It would seem the desert campaign is headed to a tipping point.

  3. sricki

    May I, or will you? My diary currently on top is disjointed/disorganized/controversial enough that it makes me squirmy.

    If FP’d I’ll be using it as a general open thread myself though. I am having trouble keeping up with the tremendous volume of news coming out of Libya, and it makes my head spin a bit.

  4. Shaun Appleby


    Press conference in #Tripoli ended prematurely when #Libya FM refused to answer any more questions and walked out. #Libya

    Given the increasingly credible reports that gunfire in Tripoli yesterday was an internal power struggle or attempted coup could be an indication that loyalists are throwing their last dice…  Hard to say.  Things have gone awfully quiet as far as previous internal sources from Libya via social media and telephone.  Almost a total blackout.

  5. Shaun Appleby


    USAF 7th Special Operations Squadron arr Luqa Malta as RCH1018, a Mildenhall based USAFE MC-130H tail nr 87-0023

    This is an aircraft usually used for delivery of special forces in hostage situations or establishing forward airbases.

  6. Shaun Appleby

    But unconfirmed:


    Pro-rebel Voice of Free Libya radio station in the east of the country reports that a group of combatants (is now) on the outskirts of Sirte

    28 minutes ago

  7. HappyinVT

    I walked a couple of blocks to the store; I needed cat food and toilet paper.  The landlord had plowed the driveway but the continued snow and wind still made that a trudge.  I went to turn onto the sidewalk only to be confronted by knee-deep snow as far up the walk as I could see.  We have sidewalk plows by they hadn’t come by yet and no one had shoveled.  I ended up joining a number of folks walking in the street.

    Once I got downtown the sidewalks were pretty clear, except for the corners where all the plowed snow goes.  Saw several folks on cross country skis; I need to think about that for future use.  My knee, which has given me fits off and on for a couple of years, was not particularly happy especially when the other leg slipped.  Got a bit of a workout on the way back because you know I bought more than just cat food and toilet paper.

    I also couldn’t file my unemployment claim because state offices are closed.

    One official said it’s some of the worst conditions he’s seen in the 20 years he’s been on the job.  Welcome to Vermont in March!  And I still wouldn’t be anywhere else.

  8. HappyinVT

    I guess you’ve heard that Mr. Huckabee made a splash last week by first saying that Obama grew up in Kenya and then made it worse by having a spokesperson come out and say the former Governor “misspoke” and meant Indonesia.  Of course, referencing the Mau Mau during the original comment makes Huckabee a two-time liar.

    But George Will is sufficiently tired of the tripe and listed who he believes (hopes?) are the front-runners for the GOP nomination.  The usual suspects of Palin, Huckabee, and Gingrich aren’t on the list.  Barbour, Huntsman, Daniels, Romney and Pawlenty are.  Daniels, in addition to being really short and Arab American, refused categorically to sign any pledge not to ever raise taxes.  Barbour has a ton of issues; Huntsman has one major issue we all know of, and Romney is both Mormon and, as the administration likes to point out, signed healthcare reform much like “Obamacare.”  That leaves Pawlenty who according to Lawrence O’Donnell has no obvious disqualifiers (boring doesn’t count).  O’Donnell has mentioned T-Paw as a front-runner several times and tonight said that perhaps if he continues to do so Pawlenty will be so damaged one of the loonies will step in.

  9. HappyinVT

    justgrateful RT @shannynmoore: Has someone let @SarahPalinUSA know that #Libya isn’t a body part? #fok

  11. HappyinVT

    President Obama, appearing Monday morning with Australia’s prime minister, tried to raise the pressure on Colonel Qaddafi further by talking about “a range of potential options, including potential military options” against the embattled Libyan leader.

    Despite Mr. Obama’s statement, interviews with military officials and other administration officials describe a number of risks, some tactical and others political, to American intervention in Libya.

    Of most concern to the president himself, one high-level aide said, is the perception that the United States would once again be meddling in the Middle East, where it has overturned many a leader, including Saddam Hussein. Some critics of the United States in the region – as well as some leaders – have already claimed that a Western conspiracy is stoking the revolutions that have overtaken the Middle East.

    “He keeps reminding us that the best revolutions are completely organic,” the senior official said, quoting the president.

    snip

    But curiously, in a sign of the uncertainties about how the politics of an American intervention would play out, few of the potential nominees for the 2012 Republican presidential ticket have expressed a strong opinion.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03…

  12. Shaun Appleby

    Not qualified at all:


    Breaking News: Explosions heard in Bab-Azizya. #Libya. Our sources say.

    Not a lot of news today from Libya so wondering about this.

  13. HappyinVT

    actually said it a couple hours ago) that Saudi Arabia is sending supplies to the rebels but that, contrary to what has been suggested, the US is not involved in that.

    Saudi Arabia is concerned with a protracted fight in Libya and it appears has sided with the rebels.

  15. HappyinVT

    joining the rebels.  There are no subtitles so I’m going to have to give the standard, “I cannot independently confirm the authenticity of the video or when it was made.”

  17. HappyinVT

    Ivo H. Daalder, the U.S. ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, told reporters that the number of Libyan air force flights has been decreasing after a peak last week. And, he added, it is hard to suppress helicopter attacks using such a tactic.

    “No-fly zones are more effective against fighters, but they really have a limited effect against … helicopters or the kind of ground operations that we’ve seen,” he said. “Which is why a no-fly zone, even if it were to be established, isn’t really going to impact what is happening there today.”

    However…

    Reports in recent days from eastern Libya have suggested that air attacks by government forces played a substantial role in a counteroffensive that pushed back the badly armed and poorly organized rebel force. Libyan leader Moammar Kadafi’s forces launched airstrikes near an oil complex in Ras Lanuf, located near the front line. News reports said a town deep in rebel-held territory also was hit Monday.

    With the United Nations estimating that the death toll in Libya has risen past 1,000, U.S. and allied officials are under increasing pressure to act. But Obama administration officials are deeply reluctant to use force, fearing open-ended involvement and a negative Arab reaction to another Western military incursion in the Middle East.

    snip

    U.S. officials are giving top priority to efforts to persuade Kadafi’s lieutenants to give up the fight. U.S. and allied officials have been trying to send messages to generals and aides warning that they could face criminal charges if they remain loyal to him.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/na…

    Also according to the article, the White House Press Secretary would neither confirm nor deny reports that the US had approached Saudi Arabia about arming the rebels.

  19. Shaun Appleby

    There’s a McGuire AFB based KC-10 tanker arriving Mediterranean. May be needed for 24/7 AWACS/ELINT with existing assets.  RAF and NATO each have an E-3 orbiting in the Mediterranean at the moment.

  20. HappyinVT

    Rebels will not pursue Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi over crimes they say he has committed if he steps down from his post in the next 72 hours, the head of the rebel National Libyan Council has told Al Jazeera.

    “If he leaves Libya immediately, during 72 hours, and stops the bombardment, we as Libyans will step back from pursuing him for crimes,” Mustafa Abdel Jalil, head of the opposition National Council, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday.

    He said the deadline would not be extended beyond 72 hours.

    snip

    Libyan state television on Tuesday denied reports that the Libyan leader tried to strike a deal with opposition forces seeking his removal. An official from the Libyan foreign ministry described the reports as “absolute nonsense”.

    However, a spokesman for the opposition National Council in the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi confirmed that a representative had sought to negotiate Gaddafi’s exit.

    Gaddafi was reported to have sent a representative to Benghazi on Sunday night to discuss a conditional plan to step down, Al Jazeera learned. The offer was provided on the condition that Gaddafi would be able to keep his assets and avoid prosecution.

    snip

    The rebel forces say they will be outgunned if the government continues to unleash its air attacks on them and are pleading for the international community to impose a no-fly zone to prevent this.

    “We don’t want a foreign military intervention, but we do want a no-fly zone,” rebel fighter Ali Suleiman told AP.

    “We are all waiting for one,” he said. The rebels can take on “the rockets and the tanks, but not Gaddafi’s air force”

    http://english.aljazeera.net/n…

  21. HappyinVT

    Preparations are under way for the delivery of another 70 metric tons of the locally-produced date bars, and 150 metric tons of wheat flour. A shipment of 1,182 metric tons of wheat flour which turned back from Benghazi last Thursday due to security concerns, set sail for Libya again today.

    http://www.libyafeb17.com/

    Also, apparently Ras Lanouf and Ban Jawd have seen heavy action today.

  24. Shaun Appleby

    For Tripoli appearance delayed almost seven hours.  Standing by for another incoherent rant…

  25. Shaun Appleby

    It appears that beyond air strikes that the Qaddafi counter stroke at Ras Lanuf has not materialised and in fact there are now unconfirmed reports that the revolutionaries are once again near Bin Jawad.  This is a vital front for the revolutionaries and it appears that foreign journalists have stepped back from this area for now.

    As a well informed tweeter has pointed out there are a number of tactical options which may be considered to take or isolate Sirte though it is impossible to assess with information we are getting at the moment.  An audio report from the area late yesterday suggests that revolutionaries have organised themselves into two cohorts, one of which is composed of the more experienced and well equipped members of their forces, leaving the ‘volunteers’ to less critical operations.  This is an interesting development.

    Listen!

  26. Shaun Appleby

    At this kind of thing:


    Perhaps in response to charges by insurgents that government forces were increasingly relying on mercenaries, Libyan foreign minister Moussa Koussa charged the United States and Britain Monday with playing “divide and conquer” with his country. If one was to believe Koussa, the Americans have released 300 Al Qaeda terrorists incarcerated at Guantánamo Bay to back the rebel forces fighting Muammar Qaddafi’s regime.

    Aryeh Ben Hayim – Libyan FM: US Using Al-Qaeda Men to Fight Qaddafi Arutz Sheva 8 Mar 11

    Heh.  That makes sense, eh?

  27. Shaun Appleby


    NTERESTING: USAF EC-130H tail nr 73-1587 as AXIS 10 inbound waypoint ARLOS wkg 123.625 MHz #55ECG #CompassCall #Libya

    This is a dedicated electronics warfare jamming and disinformation platform:



    The EC-130H Compass Call is an airborne tactical weapon system using a heavily modified version of the C-130 Hercules airframe. The system disrupts enemy command and control communications and limits adversary coordination essential for enemy force management. The Compass Call system employs the offensive counterinformation and electronic attack capabilities in support of U.S. and Coalition tactical air, surface, and special operations forces.

    Programmed upgrades will expand its mission by procuring a secondary Electronic Attack (EA) capability against early warning and acquisition radars.

    Lockheed EC-130H Compass Call Wikipedia

    Been wondering when one of these might show up.  This is an “offensive” weapons platform based exclusively Stateside.

  28. Shaun Appleby

    Another spooky guy in Libyan area:


    WOW!!! USAF EC-130J tail nr 00-1934 with sneaky c/s RCH1024 #193SOW #193SOS #CommandSolo TV, radio and WiFi broadcasting #Libya

    Libya just got a new radio station, TV channel and Wi-FI network, folks:



    The Lockheed EC-130 is a modified C-130 Hercules used to conduct psychological operations (PSYOP) and civil affairs broadcast missions in the standard AM, FM, HF, TV and military communications bands. Missions are flown at the maximum altitudes possible to ensure optimum propagation patterns. The EC-130 flies during either day or night scenarios with equal success, and is air-refuelable. A typical mission consists of a single-ship orbit which is offset from the desired target audience. The targets may be either military or civilian personnel.  The Commando Solo is operated exclusively by the 193d Special Operations Wing, which is based at the Harrisburg International Airport in Middletown, Pennsylvania.

    EC-130J Wikipedia

    Another Stateside-based aircraft.  This is an airborne cable news network and ISP.

  29. creamer

    from McCain, Lieberman and Kerry.

     I’m left wondering if its concern for the Lybian people, or just a general hatred of Gadafi. How do you think the hawks would react if it was the Saudi princes under siege?

     Proably would be hearing a lot about Al-Qaeda influence. We keep hearing how where too broke to pay for education or infastructure but we can burn up a few billion playing globsl cop. If McCain and Kerry are so big about a no fly zone they should buy their own f-18’s and handle it themselves.

  30. Shaun Appleby

    Of Qaddafi’s pre-recorded rant as I could stand.  I’m guessing he’s got a fatwa coming soon from somewhere in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region.

  33. HappyinVT

    Three Shia opposition groups in Bahrain have announced their intent on toppling the Sunni monarchy and setting up a republic.

    The declaration on Tuesday is likely to raise already inflamed tensions in the country, ahead of a planned march on the royal court.

    Labelled the “Coalition for a Bahraini Republic,” the group said in a statement that they “declare a tripartite coalition between the Wafa, Haq and Bahrain Freedom Movement that has chosen to fight for a complete downfall of the  regime, and the establishment of a democratic republic in Bahrain”. http://english.aljazeera.net/n…

    Other groups have been/are content with a constitutional monarchy.

  34. HappyinVT

    The Libyan government said on Tuesday that Finance Minister Abdulhafid Zlitni had taken over temporarily as head of the central bank because Governor Farhat Omar Bengdara was abroad. Bengdara’s whereabouts had been unclear for the past two weeks.

    The FT’s website said Bengdara, whom it described as “the man who holds the keys to the Gaddafi regime’s finances”, had contacted the paper by email late on Tuesday to say that he had been informed of the move and that he had been in Turkey.  

    snip

    The FT said international bankers and opposition figures have been scrambling to locate Bengdara and decipher his loyalties because they assume he is one of the few officials with the authority to move funds.

    http://www.reuters.com/article…

  35. Shaun Appleby

    Is going to take another attack today:


    The tanks of pro-Gaddafi forces were closing in on the main square of the western city of Zawiyah, a rebel fighter said #alarabiya #Gaddafi

    That is one tough city.  If you haven’t seen the Alex Crawford video from yesterday which is upthread it is really worth watching.

  36. Shaun Appleby


    BREAKING BREAKING: 3 Libyan Government airplanes air borne 5A-DCN, 5A-UAA and 5A-UAC heading for Cairo, Athens and Vienna #Libya #Gadhafi

  37. Shaun Appleby

    Ben Wedeman of CNN:


    Appears Govt forces have advanced toward Ras Lanouf. Opposition fighters moving forward to try to stop advance. #Libya

    This will be interesting…

  38. HappyinVT

    6:08pm

    Confirmed to Al Jazeera: Libyan envoys are meeting with European Union officials in Brussels.

    4:55pm

    Abdelrahman al-Zawi, the Libyan deputy defence minister, has arrived in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, flying on a private jet. Reports say he is carrying a message from Gaddafi but we cannot confirm which officials he’s going to meet. Newspaper Al-Ahram suggests he’s to meet the military council while other sources say he’ll meet Amr Moussa, head of the Arab league.

    http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liv…

    I’m quite intrigued by the deputy defense minister in Cairo.  My hope is that he’s trying to find a way out for Gaddafi.  Please, please, please.  I cannot think there is any way Egypt supports Gaddafi.

  39. HappyinVT

    Thus far, MSF has delivered 22 tons of medical equipment and supplies to the Benghazi central pharmacy, including drugs, burn kits, dressings, sutures, and external fixators. Eleven tons of additional supplies are on the way to Benghazi, ready to be dispatched to areas where the ongoing fighting has created supply shortages and needs.

    The MSF team continues to try and access Ras Lanuf and other areas to the west, but insecurity and fighting continue to make such assessments impossible.

    snip

    While most of the migrants’ needs are being met, MSF has launched a mental health care program, as many of these people either witnessed or suffered various forms of violence while in Libya and face great uncertainty in their immediate future.

    http://www.doctorswithoutborde…

  40. HappyinVT

    18:54 BBC The Libyan authorities have offered a bounty of 500,000 Libyan dinars ($400,000) to anyone who captures Mustafa Abdul Jalil. In an urgent headline bar, Libyan state TV also announced a reward of 200,000 dinars ($160,000) for information leading to the capture of Mr Abdel Jalil, who was described as an “agent spy”. http://www.libyafeb17.com/  

  41. HappyinVT

    We thought “You lie!” was rough:

    The Prime Minister defended William Hague after Labour leader Ed Miliband accused the Government of being incompetent.

    Mr Miliband went on the attack over the botched SAS mission into Libya to make contact with rebels last week, as well as rounding on the coalition over policing cuts.

    He said: “We know the Government is out of touch and now we know its incompetent as well – incompetent on Libya and incompetent on policing.

    “The Prime Minister may act like he was born to rule but the truth is he’s not very good at it.” http://news.sky.com/skynews/Ho…  

  42. HappyinVT

    8:00pm

    A group calling themselves Topple The Tyrants have occupied the £10m London Mansion of Saif Al Islam Gaddafi, in solidarity with the Libyan people and their struggle to overthrow Gaddafi’s government.

    A spokesman for the group said “We didn’t trust the British government to properly seize the Gaddafi regime’s corrupt assets, so we took matters into our own hands.”

    The spokesman said “Gaddafi, Mubarak, the House of Saud and numerous other tyrants use front companies in British protectorates to avoid paying tax and above all to protect their anonymity.

    “Britain actively assists tyrants, corporations and the super rich to rob their people blind. Our aim is to make sure that the assets stolen by Gaddafi are returned to the Libyan people and don’t disappear into the pockets of governments or corporations.” http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liv…  

  44. HappyinVT

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    Although most sources were suggesting the rebellion in Zawiyah had been crushed, a resident named Ibrahim claimed combat was continuing.

    The Gaddafi regime has cut all mobile and landline communications with the town and accounts of today’s fighting came from witnesses who had driven out of the combat area and one who had climbed on a roof to find a phone signal.

    Residents described a hail of bullets, with women and children being killed and families trapped within their homes.

    The violence of this assault marks a disturbing escalation in the developing civil war in Libya, suggesting that the regime has now decided to pursue a no-holds barred strategy to crush the rebellion, despite the growing threats of international action. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…  

    I heard it suggested this morning that Gaddafi was ramping up military action ahead of any no-fly zone/military intervention so that he could inflict as much damage as possible before it became more difficult to do.

  45. Shaun Appleby

    Reports from Az Zawiyah from earlier today:


    (Reuters) – A fighter in Zawiyah said rebels had retaken the main square of the western city on Wednesday after pro-Gaddafi forces took control of it earlier in the day but later pulled back following a rebel counter-attack.

    The fighter named Ibrahim told Reuters the government had brought in supporters of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi for a rally there and they were now on the main road.

    “We have pushed (pro-Gaddafi forces) out and we are back in the square now,” Ibrahim said by telephone. “They are one km away now. Thanks to Allah we are sitting in the square now.”

    Mariam Karouny – Zawiyah fighter says rebels retake main square Reuters 9 Mar 11

    Earlier reports clearly stated the city had been retaken at heavy cost:


    (Reuters) – Forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi recaptured Zawiyah Wednesday after a fierce attack on the closest rebel-held city to the capital Tripoli, residents said.

    Libyan state television showed footage of Gaddafi supporters waving flags in what it said was a celebratory march in Zawiyah and a rebel fighter told Reuters pro-Gaddafi forces had driven rebels from their stronghold in the central square.

    A local doctor confirmed the report and said the death toll in the day’s fighting was at least 40 and probably many more.

    “We have pulled back and they are inside the square but we will attack them again and have it back,” the rebel fighter said by telephone. “We will do that tonight. This is not the end.”

    The doctor said many dead lay in the streets, including old people, women and children. Al Jazeera television said several members of Gaddafi’s forces were also killed, including a general and colonel.

    Maria Golovnina and Michael Georgy – Gaddafi forces take rebel town in west Reuters 9 Mar 11

    If the rebels still hold Zawiyah it is an amazing display of determination and courage, to say the least.

  46. Shaun Appleby

    Unconfirmed reports regarding Bin Jawad:


    Rebel fighters said they had advanced into the hard-fought-over strategic town of Bin Jawad on the front line in the east, but faced air strikes and heavy bombardment from pro-Gaddafi forces who had earlier dug in their tanks.

    Mohammed Abbas – Libya rebels and army clash in east, oil tanks hit Reuters 9 Mar 11

    While the journalists and the West have night sweats over the bombing of the oil facilities is it possible the rebels have resumed their advance?

  47. Kysen

    and I do not see this as requiring a diary of its own:

    I have been watching DK4’s Group activity for a couple weeks now.

    From what I can tell, for the vast most part, they are just another way of getting material seen.

    ‘Special Rules’ cannot be made or enforced for each group…and, honestly, unless you have JUST ONE group filing into your Stream, or have clicked intentionally on a Group’s Page, I don’t think people really know where diaries first came from.

    In the past couple of days I have gone thru the entire list of members here on the Moose and searched the usernames on Dkos to see who has cross accounts (now, having said that, I KNOW that there are many who use different names HERE than elsewhere…Happy and Stipes are two).

    What I think I am going to do, based on watching what other respected Groups have done…is blast out a mass ‘invite’ to ‘join’ the Moose Group.

    By accepting the ‘invite’, a member then becomes a ‘Contributer’…meaning they can flag/request that their diaries (or any diary they come across that they think fellow Moose would enjoy) to be posted. THEY CANNOT POST THEM THOUGH. They can just request that they be posted.

    In the Invite, I would welcome Moose and Friends of the Moose to join.

    I figure, if Moose are posting diaries anyway, might as well give them a bit more exposure.

    So, I am thinking of doing so tonight.

    If anyone is hard set AGAINST it…let me know, though, tbh, I really don’t see where the harm is in it (and I am admittedly one of the more ‘cautious’ Moose when it comes to such things). I don’t think it will alter anything ‘HERE’…but, would give an easy way to find Moose diaries over ‘THERE’.

    Otherwise, will send out an invite tonight….and go from there.

    Hope all are well.

    Let me know yer thoughts….if, indeed, there are any one way or the other.  😉

    (oh, and if your Moose name differs from your Dkos name, please email me with the correct username…thx)

    😉

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