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So traditional marriage is a marriage between a man and a female virgin.

Deuteronomy 22:13-21 (New International Version)

13 If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the girl’s father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. 16 The girl’s father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver [a] and give them to the girl’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

Traditional marriage is a marriage between a rapist and his victim.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29(New International Version)

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Traditional marriage is a marriage between a man and two sisters.

Genesis 29:20-35 (New International Version)

20 So Jacob served seven years to get Rachel, but they seemed like only a few days to him because of his love for her.

21 Then Jacob said to Laban, “Give me my wife. My time is completed, and I want to lie with her.”

22 So Laban brought together all the people of the place and gave a feast. 23 But when evening came, he took his daughter Leah and gave her to Jacob, and Jacob lay with her. 24 And Laban gave his servant girl Zilpah to his daughter as her maidservant.

25 When morning came, there was Leah! So Jacob said to Laban, “What is this you have done to me? I served you for Rachel, didn’t I? Why have you deceived me?”

26 Laban replied, “It is not our custom here to give the younger daughter in marriage before the older one. 27 Finish this daughter’s bridal week; then we will give you the younger one also, in return for another seven years of work.”

28 And Jacob did so. He finished the week with Leah, and then Laban gave him his daughter Rachel to be his wife. 29 Laban gave his servant girl Bilhah to his daughter Rachel as her maidservant. 30 Jacob lay with Rachel also, and he loved Rachel more than Leah. And he worked for Laban another seven years.

And if one of the two wives can’t have children, the man can have children with her maidservant for the wife to raise as her own.

Genesis 30:1-8 (New International Version)

1 When Rachel saw that she was not bearing Jacob any children, she became jealous of her sister. So she said to Jacob, “Give me children, or I’ll die!”

2 Jacob became angry with her and said, “Am I in the place of God, who has kept you from having children?”

3 Then she said, “Here is Bilhah, my maidservant. Sleep with her so that she can bear children for me and that through her I too can build a family.”

4 So she gave him her servant Bilhah as a wife. Jacob slept with her, 5 and she became pregnant and bore him a son. 6 Then Rachel said, “God has vindicated me; he has listened to my plea and given me a son.” Because of this she named him Dan.

7 Rachel’s servant Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son. 8 Then Rachel said, “I have had a great struggle with my sister, and I have won.” So she named him Naphtali.

And a traditional marriage NEVER ends.

1 Corinthians 7:10 (New International Version)

10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.

And if a man decides that he is not happy and strays from his traditional spouse, the punishment for both himself and his mistress is severe.

Leviticus 20:10 (New International Version)

10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife-with the wife of his neighbor-both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

But if the church goes ahead and grants the divorce–because churches can decide when to ignore the Bible–it okay to get married again, right?

Matthew 19:9 (New International Version)

9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

But fret not ladies, the Bible explains how to keep your traditional marriage happy and stable…

Ephesians 5:22-24 (New International Version)

22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.


And don’t think of not putting out unless both of you decide that you’re not in the mood…

1 Corinthians 7:3-5 (New International Version)

3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

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  1. “In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.”

    That kind of thing could almost save Christianity in my eyes, ….. but, nah.

    And just yesterday GrassTopsUSA – a right wing site I subscribe to – was making the case against Islam (again) with the whole “you don’t see Christians blowing up xyz…”.  Yeah – recently.  That whole Crusades period kinda shot that to hell, though, and Columbus trying to convert/enslave/kill half the world in the name of Jesus, and….  Oh, nevermind.

    Hey, it’s “worked for 5,000 years” (where the hell does that number even come from… oh, yeah…)…

    I know plenty of very observant Christians who don’t have the hangups of the flapping gums of the “traditional Marriage” crowd.  They’re just playing their violins while their Titanic sinks beneath them at this point.

  2. creamer

    I’ve always been baffled by the number of intelligent women allow some reference to male domination in their wedding vows. And while western liberalism has loosen the application of male dominanence, one of the common threads of mideastern religion is male dominance.

    One of the stumbling blocks I have with most religions is a God who’s view’s on fairness and justice have been eclipsed by modern liberal human thought. The mindset that Gods controls everything and is never wrong is harldy displayed in the events of the world. The thought that our creator created a being that functioned on logic, but did not function logicaly himself seems foolish.

    Then again the right wing’s behavior does throw doubt on that whole logic argument.

  3. rfahey22

    Unfortunately, any number of biblical passages can be read to deny equal rights to all but straight men, and any inconsistencies with that viewpoint are read or explained away (such as the death sentence for adulterers).  Even the more literal-minded male fundamentalists would not enforce certain punishments against themselves, I would suspect, even though they would have no problem subjugating everyone else.  

  4. DeniseVelez

    I don’t like drawing simply from Judeo-Christian mythology and ritual.

    Among the Nuer, for example, older women often take younger wives.

    Among some groups in Papua New Guinea sexual initiation has nothing to do with marriage.  Yuong men are initiated by old men, as young girls are by old women,  They think we are quite bizarre since they can’t understand how the opposite sex can really understand how the other sexes body works.  At a time when the opposite sexes are old enough to marry, a spouse is selected from another group – usually enemies, and the spouse is never really trusted.  After children are produced, men go back to living with men and women with women.

    Then there is corporate marriage; where two families are actually the marriage unit (a hasty description of a complex variation)

    I could go on – polygyny, polgamy, polyandry …exogamous, endogamous – all terms used to deal with how we construct kinship, and marriage is central to that.

    Frankly, I wish our gov would get out of the marriage business completely, and just have civil unions for all, and then let everyone marry in the religion or not religion of their choice.

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